Bob McEwen: They’re deconstructing our founders

The former Ohio Congressman says U.S. stability is being eroded by our education system.

Full transcript:

John Solomon  0:06  
Hello, America and welcome to a new edition of John Solomon Reports the podcast from Just the News where this morning, we broke a little news and guess what? If you're the FBI, the CIA, the State Department here feeling a little more heat in your kitchen this morning. Why is that? Two powerful Senate Committee Chairmen Ron Johnson, head of the governmental affairs and Homeland Security Committee, Chuck Grassley, the Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, the guy that controls the purse strings of federal agencies. Well, they just set wide ranging new demand for documents in the Russia collusion probe, and they're going right at some of the most sensitive secrets that the CIA has on the Russia probe. Some of the most sensitive secrets that the State Department has tried to keep from senators for a long time. And word on the street is President Trump has given the okay to release these documents, which means it'll happen maybe this month. This is a very important new development, some of the golden cast in the Russia collusion case, things that we weren't willing to ask and talk about are on the table. When we come back from the commercial break, I'm going to tell you about that. And then we are going to go to a really important conversation with the former Ohio congressman Bob McEwen. He runs one of the most influential policy groups in Washington called the Center for National Policy. It's a place where conservative policy ideas emanate from, it's got a lot of the old guard of the party, some of the new guard of the party. It's very influential. Often President Trump or other people will address or leave a message for the group when they meet every year. Their menu is coming up next month. We're going to talk about anarchy, tyranny, free speech in America. Right after these commercial messages, we're going to come back we're going to talk about the Ron Johnson, Chuck Grassley letters, and then we're going to hear from the one and only congressman of Ohio, former congressman of Ohio. Bob McEwen. He is one of the more eloquent speakers that you'll ever hear. And what he has to say about violence in America, censorship in America, insanity in America, it's worth listening to. So we'll be right back after these commercial messages.

Alright folks, welcome back from the commercial break. And remember, if you like what we do at Just the News, if you like what we do at John Solomon Reports, the sort of conversations we have, with major newsmakers, please support our sponsors. Please let our advertisers know how much you love them and appreciate what they do for us. They make it possible for all this great programming and news to come your way via the website, via the podcast, via the video player. So we're going to get to the big bombshell letters that have dropped on the CIA, the FBI, the State Department and the ODNI, the Office of Director of National Intelligence, and second, new document demands coming from Johnson and Grassley. It's going to be a big deal, but first we had some breaking news today. It's somebody that a lot of us have known. We didn't know him we certainly revere his career. Earlier today, Herman Cain, the former 2012 presidential candidate, ran for the GOP nomination against Mitt Romney, passed away after a battle with Coronavirus. He was 74 years old. Herman Cain is a living example of the opportunity that exists for African Americans, Americans of all ages, races, because we are an upwardly mobile society. Herman Cain, he was the CEO of Godfathers Pizza, if you like Godfathers Pizza, you have a lot to thank for Herman Cain. But before that he had a long career at the Pillsbury company. Yes, a very important food company, and he served his country as a governor for the Federal Reserve Bank in Kansas City. He was somebody who on a daily basis reminded us that anything is possible in America when you put your mind to it, you can run for president as a black man, you can create an incredible pizza company franchise like Godfathers Pizza. You can rise up in the corporate America or you can serve your government through the Federal Reserve Bank. Today's a day to remember a very special person. 

He had been in the hospital since July 1st, a few days, about a week or 10 days after he last was seen in public with President Trump at the rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Very, very sad day for Americans of all political stripes because Herman Cain is more than just a Republican. He was a Navy man. He served in the Navy as a civilian systems analyst. He was a Federal Reserve governor. He did a lot for his country and I think we all are missing him already. This great American entrepreneur, and public servant. So in your prayers today, remember Herman Cain's family and also remember keep getting reminded by this, whatever you think about the politics of Coronavirus, it's still is a very serious disease. It's one that we need to take seriously. Were those masks, follow the good hygiene standards of washing your hands often. We shouldn't have to suffer such losses as Herman Cain's life with this, so be careful, be safe. I know there's a lot of political things that are going on with Coronavirus, particularly related to hydroxychloroquine and other things. But that virus just took a great American from us and you should keep that in mind. 

All right, moving on from the breaking news to another breaking story, but one that was original, unique here at Just the News this morning. We are reporting that Charles Grassley and Ron Johnson, two powerful Chairman in the Senate Republicans. Johnson of Wisconsin, Grassley of Iowa. They delivered some letters earlier this week, they put significant new demands on the State Department, the CIA, the FBI, Justice Department and the ODNI for documents. And what these documents are, these are a little more sensitive. They're getting at the real sensitive stuff around the Russia collusion investigation, how sensitive you saying? Well, they want to know what exactly it was at the CIA sent the FBI about its analysis of Christopher Steele, the MI6 spy. Remember the IG gave us a couple of declassified footnotes recently, and those were bombshells right. They found out that the FBI knew early on that Steele was a victim are a target of Russian disinformation that some of the information is dossier was not only false, it was intentionally planted to smear Donald Trump by the Russian intelligence services. Despite that the FBI continued to use it to support its FISA of warrants. But what else did the FBI know or CIA know about Christopher Steele? What other red flags that aren't in the IG report? Did the CIA pass on what was his assessment of collusion? Well, Senators Grassley and Johnson are drilling into that concrete patio and going to find out what's lying below it. 

In addition, a lot of people don't know this, but I've been reporting this for some time. Devin Nunez had another report. It's classified never got released to the American public. It's a referral report to the CIA Inspector General, that asked the CIA Inspector General to look at whether the people who did the intelligence community assessment that in January, early January 2017, before President Trump became president at the end of the Obama administration, when John Brennan and James Clapper and Susan Rice were in charge of the intelligence apparatus. Did they get their assessment wrong? Remember the most controversial and headline grabbing line in that assessment was that Russia's intervention in the election, which no one disputes, they hacked some emails. They bought some Facebook ads, was designed to help Donald Trump win the presidency and Hillary Clinton lose the presidency. Since that time, a lot of people have disputed that, including the former CIA station chief in Moscow, one of our premier experts on Russia spying. Dan Hoffman, you've heard him on this very show. They have said the evidence didn't point that way. That's not Putin's playbook. It's wrong. Well, these two senators are now telling the CIA, we want to see Devin Nunez, his analysis. We want it declassified. Turn it over. We want to find out if there were people inside the CIA at the time this conclusion came out that were troubled by it, disputed it, arguing against it. If they do, there's a high likelihood that some of our public officials gave false testimony to Congress. So that's a big one. 

Another one they want to know. Just exactly from the CIA, the ODNI. The State Department. What did Great Britain, what did Australia, what did other Five Eyes, allies of the United States, what did our foreign allies do? What were they asked to do? What dirt did they provide or warnings did they provide about Donald Trump or Christopher Steele? For the first time, I know a lot of you been asking this for a long time, someone's asking the question. What did Great Britain, what did Australia do? Why did they do it when they do it? And who requested it? These are really bombshell pressure points that these two senators are now putting on the Russia investigation. We have the storyline, right. We know, the court was misled that Russia collusion was never true. And the warning signs were everywhere. And someone, a group of people, particularly at the top of the FBI, and in the news media, maybe in the CIA perpetrated this false story for a year or two or three. But some of these other remaining questions are now on the table. I'll give you one more. The FBI and the CIA have been asked along with the State Department in ODNI. What do you know about this guy, Professor Bishop, the guy who first instigates a contact with George Papadopoulos it's used to eventually justify the opening of Crossfire Hurricane.

The real files, whatever we have, whatever we've learned, whatever's news about [?] about Halper, the other informant, the FBI used. Steele, the senators are drilling down for things that mostly have been kept behind closed doors in skiffs, kept quiet. It looks like it's getting serious. There's not a lot of time. There's 96 days before the election to find out... the 2020 election to find out what really happened back in 2016. But finally, someone is asking for the type of documents that will change the depth, the dialogue, the narrative in Washington. That's why this story is an important story and you got it first on Just the News. If you haven't seen it, go to Just the News.com look for my byline. Type in Grassley, Johnson whatever you want in the search box, you'll find the story easily but this is important stuff. So is our conversation upcoming with Bob McEwen and the former Ohio Republican Congressman, one of Washington's more eloquent speakers, somebody who has a lot of passion about America, about what's going on in America, in the streets, in the courts, inside the FBI, inside the social media giants that are regulating free speech. This is a must listen to interview, he has some very profound things to say he has some ideas. For instance, he has an idea how Americans upset with the school systems, not just about the fact that they may not be teaching in class over Coronavirus, but over the sort of lessons and agendas and philosophies that educators are using to influence our past and future children. He's got a lot to say about this, you're gonna want to hear this interview. We'll get his latest reaction to Russia gate and the FBI and the institutions that lead us down there. And you're not gonna want to miss this. We're gonna do a quick commercial break. When we come back Bob McEwen and the Congressman, the head of the CED center. national policy. But first, this commercial break.

Alright folks, welcome back from the commercial break And as promised a very special guest, a very special friend, former congressman Bob McEwen, the head of the Council on national policy CNP, one of the most influential conservative policy groups in America. He's joining us today. Congressman, welcome to the John Solomon Reports podcast.

Bob McEwen  12:30  
Oh, John, it's a great pleasure to be with you always. Thank you.

John Solomon  12:33  
Well, same here. I'm so grateful you've been able to make some time and we greatly appreciate it. I know our listeners are going to enjoy this today. So you spent a great deal of years in Congress. And so you know what life is like in the swamp, and in Washington. And I wonder what you think currently about what you see going on in Washington. I mean, the bar hearing just a couple days ago was such a spectacle that I can't imagine what have occurred 10 or 20 years ago in Congress, the state of politics, the state of policy, this state of decency in Washington? What's your take on it?

Bob McEwen  13:03  
Well, you're indeed correct. It seems that there are those who are more interested in power than they are in policy. And at the point that they were able to get America to go to sleep, allow the Chinese to steal are in inventions are investments. As you know, 25 years ago, they began taking money from our local banks where we used to invest to people and would borrow for a car or home or church. And they began sending it to New York, New York began sending it to China. And so our main streets were being denuded and the money was going to build highways and buildings and overpasses and shipyards in China and the folks in New York were making the difference and having a swell time. But America was losing his jobs. In fact, if you if you go on to the Federal Reserve as St. Louis they keep track of that, if you look at the median income for America in 1996, and you run it all the way through up to 2016 You see that it's within $200? Absolutely flatline. While Chinese work continuing to grow at 6 to 9%. 

John Solomon  14:10  
That's an amazing statistic,

Bob McEwen  14:12  
You should see the chart. I mean, it really, really is. And then when you see that this President came in said, no, no, no, we can build here, and begin to wake the world up. And the factories began to return to America and the supply chains that we were dependent upon them. Mercedes, you couldn't build a Mercedes, you couldn't build a Samsung refrigerator without their approval. And that was begun. So the stock market in China began to go down 37%, the one in America went up 50%, half as far as since the beginning of the country. And as America took off, now we are in a tremendous political and economic battle. And that is, are we going to return to the old days? Are we going to be allowed to continue to grow and prosper? And as a result, people are exposing themselves as to which team they're really on. And you see that many of these people on Capitol Hill and these demonstrators are anti American, that he they are offended at the fact that making America great again. And that's where you and I come in.

John Solomon  15:09  
It is remarkable. I just can't you know, I grew up in the 1960s when I remember, you know, some of the racial protests that were peaceful and meaningful, and there were real issues back then [?], John Lewis and Martin Luther King and others brought to our attention in a peaceful way, but they didn't try to destroy our country. With the hundreds of millions of dollars we've now seen in damages to businesses and other things. When you look back now, over history, what is this current malestrom about? Is it really about race? Or is there some other dynamic going back going on? I know you have some pretty strong feelings about what's really behind some of these movements. What's your, what's your diagnosis, doctor?

Bob McEwen  15:53  
Well, one of my best friends is been Ed Meese, who was the Chief of Staff for governor Ronald Reagan in Sacramento. [?] America's Counsel to the President. And then Attorney General. And we've made sure that we got together at least once a week now for nearly 30 years. And they made the observation recently that the only time that America was truly in the position of disintegrating and disappearing, was under President Lincoln, when the insurrection inside was to do away with America. And then he said, and currently, when these people want to do away with America. In World War Two, we knew with enough time and energy where we're going to win that, but this is when our future is really truly at stake. That these folks... they spray across the the stores in Portland and in Chicago and elsewhere, abolish America, and that all cops are bad. And then for the first time in our history, they begin to pull down George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses Grant, the pull down those that made this country. 4% of the population of the world, John 4%, creates more books, more plays more symphonies, where copyrights more inventions and the rest of the world combined. 30% of all the goods and services are made by this little 4%. And when a ship is attacked on the high seas has happened over 300 times last year, the only people to whom the world can appeal are the 327,000 Americans that wear the uniform the United States Navy, so the stability and standard of the world has been this nation. If you take down America, the rest of it is a piece of cake. And so that is why this battle is so critical at this time, there are those that literally  despise our freedom in our nation.

John Solomon  17:45  
When you look out and yeah, reminding people of all the great things America does that we don't seem to celebrate today. We seem to denigrate instead of celebrate what makes America so special. And I think you did it in 300 words or less more eloquently than I could if I had 10,000 words that was very, very impressive. What do you believe? What happened? Did someone get to our kids? Who made these angry protestors? How did this happen?

Bob McEwen  18:11  
That's it when you see these black lives matter who are people who are primarily overwhelmingly millennial females, white millennial females, and they're standing there screaming at these African American policemen, and using the foul language, and as the governor of New York said America was never that great. And these people say America was never great. You ask them about America, they're at a loss, their sense of history as we've all seen, ask them was the fourth of July about? Well, I don't know. Somebody will say independence, independence from whom? And they'll say things like China or who did we fight in World War Two, when was the constitution passed? and say 1984. So you begin to see that their their sense of history has been so distorted, that's the only thing that can tell you about America is slavery, slavery and slavery. That seems to be the only thing that they've ever been taught. And let me just take another sentence or two and remind you that for thousands of years people hoped to someday fly. But it was the Americans that invented the airplane, and the light bulb, and the telegraph, and the telephone, and the global positioning system. The ship park in Hong Kong this very moment is using a GPS, flying over Africa using a GPS system conceived, invented, maintained by Americans. Mercedes dealer in Buenos Aires is purchasing a part from Stuttgart, Germany using an internet that was conceived, invented, and is maintained by Americans. America is the source of stability and strength in the world. And these people don't recognize because they've lived in this beautiful... there are skyscrapers all over the planet, John, why? Because an American named Elisha Otis invented the safety elevator, right and there places where it's 100 degrees. Why? Because an American named Willis Carrier invented the air conditioner. And so these people grow up living in paradise that kings and queens just 100 years ago wouldn't even dream about. And they sit there and complain about this country because they've never been taught how unique and how special it is. That's the sad part. And, it has to do with the education system, the education system has gone... after World War One, they began this process of deconstructing our founders. And so I was on a call, and I think it was C-SPAN or something. And this person mentioned that Benjamin Franklin had 54 children out of wedlock. Now, if you just stop and think about that the possibility of such a thing is just beyond comprehension. I mean, but nevertheless, they would believe that, there is no evidence or record of any promiscuity on the part of Benjamin Franklin prior to the 1920s. It was only after communism began to prosper in 1917, began to move in the individual countries, that they began to through the Frankfurt School, take over our universities, and then have to change our history books and began to fill these things that people don't know anything about our founders. And, for example, the founders, they refer to them as slave owners. Prior to the founders of the United States of America, John, prior to the founders of the United States of America, slavery was ubiquitous. It was throughout all recorded history throughout scriptures, through everywhere. After the founders, those men James Madison, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, the finest people in the history of many times, after them, slavery has been anathema. And the only place... 14 of the 18th largest are in Africa still, and another four before in the Middle East. But America led the way to put a stop to slavery. And that was those men that did, that's why we honor them. They said well, they had slaves when they were young. By the time they died. Slavery was on its way out, that's why America has been honored throughout the world. These little kids with their spray paint and the foul language and they're screaming and don't have a clue as to why they were honored in the first place. 

John Solomon  22:13  
Your group is a place where particularly Republicans, but everyone's welcome to go, but goes for policy ideas for prescriptions for coming up with the next big idea that maybe can make America just a little bit better. When you look at the education system and the 20 year 30 year drift towards, you know, what people say is a left leaning education curriculum. What's your prescription to stop that, to balance it to get the ideals that you're talking about back into the mainstream of universities and colleges and high schools and grammar schools? Is your group working on any education reforms that will address this sort of the eviction of history?

Bob McEwen  22:55  
John, thank you for that. Competition only works every time. Socialism fails every time. Socialism fails, and our education system, they began in the 1960s, to do away with the local schools, and be certain then made it such that you had a child in one school district, another one and another one, you couldn't support both of the PTA of both and they did away with the local schools began to consolidate, then they could control until now, they they've now diminished the education as a process. What we are experiencing at this moment in 2020, is we're seeing the people begin to recognize the chaos in the educational system, you recognize that you really don't need to spend $150,000 a year to go to Harvard, when they're all they're going to do is have a virtual meeting on the computer anyway, right? If you can sit at home and you can meet with the finest economist, have the finest economists in the world. And when you don't understand you back up and listen to it again. When you let the technology that... you've had the foot against the door against a technological advancement in the higher education uses this paradigm, this model from the 17th century. You let this competition come through there and then come down to the schools. The schools don't want to open because they're in an effort... If the schools don't open, people can't go to work. They can't go to work, they're going to be frustrated financially, and hopefully, and that's the goal in order to get rid of this president. So you're going to see the teachers union continually fight opening schools. Why if that's the way you want to be it, then we don't have to pay taxes for schools that aren't open, right? So if we take that money, and we give it to parents, then individually, nobody cares about that child as much as the parent, and then they can bargain. And they said, well, who would go to the inner city... you let a single mother $19,000 a year in Washington DC. You let a single mother with three children stand on a street corner wave $60,000 overhead, and say who wants to come teach my child, she will be run over with people saying, oh, your son learns only in the morning from six to nine in the morning, I'll be there. Your child only learns when he's moving around, I can teach him. You begin to get the competition to a point about the inner city school where it's so terrible and nobody... I'll tell you what will happen to that school, it'll close for 24 hours, right? And then somebody that knows how to run a school system will come in there and get the teachers that are sitting cross legged on the desk out of the room, and get the spray paint off the wall. And people will be in charge because competition only works every time. And when you put competition in educational system. We are potentially, with the proper decision made in November, on the threshold of the greatest revolution in technology and advancement in education that this country has been needing for over nearly a century now. It can be a dynamic, exciting time, particularly for the inner city, particularly for those that are stuck in schools where they're unsafe, whether they're being bullied, whether they're being harassed, where they're unsafe, where they're being taught anti family, anti church, anti country, and  it can be fixed now if we empower the parents rather than giving it to the unions.

John Solomon  26:15  
it is eerily similar to when I was growing up as a young reporter in the great state of Wisconsin, a few clicks away from you in Ohio. There was a governor by the name of Tommy Thompson, who invented an idea with I think Governor Engler of Michigan, called school choice. And Tommy Thompson reached across the aisle to an African American Democrat in Milwaukee by the name of Polly Williams. And they created the first school choice movement, which is if you don't like the way your schools are training your children, you can take the funds and go to a private school. And that gave rise to the charter schools and there's been a lot of innovation and a lot of parents who go there or have taken advantage of these experiments. I've really seen the benefit and crow about the benefit as sort of a liberation from a one size fits all education system, what you just described and it seems like the next iteration of school choice, which is you closed on our schools, maybe COVID is a blessing in disguise, is the idea here to create a new generation of school choice ideas where parents can extricate and train their children in new ways?

Bob McEwen  27:19  
And the schools... having 5000 people, my daughter went to a school that was larger than my hometown that I grew up in... having schools of five and six times... that doesn't improve the quality of education. Rather, when the heads of Europe they were taught with a tutor, a one on one, that's the old amount, [?] and it doesn't take all day. You spend an hour or two with a master and you can learn as much as you would if you're with a large group, number one. Number two is you know, in Washington, DC, as you mentioned, when they had this lottery program for the school choice. I know the days that had happened. The coliseum was absolutely filled to capacity with the parents and the children, they're praying and hoping and as they withdraw each name, as you see, the families would cheer and clap and hug and cry and they'd be so excited. And then of course, all but a few hundred of them would walk away, disappear, disappointed. When when Obama came in, he said, we can't have people be able to choose go to a decent school, they need to be in the socialized, incompetent, dangerous school, they need to all be there. And when he did it, people in Washington DC erupted and said, we can't do that. What we'll do is we just won't have any new people. And so those of you that have it, you'll be able to keep it. And so there just weren't any new people and after four years after his first term is now disappeared. People, particularly those in the inner city, those that that have send their children off just praying that they come back alive. Those if we care about them at all, if we have any compassion in our hearts at all. We will defeat these radicals that black lives matter leftists, the malice, that despise America burn our cities to the ground, we will defeat them and be able to empower the family again, to be able to choose what's best for their children.

John Solomon  29:14  
It's a remarkable opportunity. And if you look, we had a story on Just the News the other day where I think was San Francisco, but one of the school districts or maybe it was one of the California School districts, as I recall, the teacher said they wouldn't come back until the school system shut down the charter schools, the choice schools, the opportunity schools...

Bob McEwen  29:31  
The competition.

John Solomon  29:32  
Yeah, these are teachers that are afraid of competition on the merits. And I think that that's what's so remarkable moment. I think whether they showed their true colors in that moment of well hold your kids in your classrooms hostage until you take away the choice. That's the debate that's going on here. And it's in fact, you don't have to take my word for you can go and actually see the letter that these teachers and teachers unions wrote.

Bob McEwen  29:56  
They forgot their facade, that it's always for the children. It's always for the children. You know, it's not for the children at all those children are going to a school where they're actually learning in a matter of no time at all. They learn their ABCs, they learn their phonics to be able to read, they're empowered to read. And there are 13 schools in Baltimore, Maryland, where there is not a single child, not one that meets the minimum standards... but go ahead. 

John Solomon  30:21  
That record of failure is unacceptable. We're better than that. I know. And, you know, I know so many teachers and I've been blessed my whole life to have great teachers and my son who has special special needs, had the most amazing teacher so there are individual teachers and we're never condemning them. We're condemning the philosophy that there can't be more than one opportunity. There's something wrong with competition. competition has always been great in America. Until recently, it seems like when we're afraid to competition...

Bob McEwen  30:51  
We want to free those teachers up to be able to teach, that's exactly what I told you. The socialized school system that doesn't teach... That you empower the local schools to compete... right now if you have a teacher on one side of the hall that can teach and dedicates her heart and soul to teach you those fourth graders how to read and write and multiplication tables, and you have one across the hall that doesn't do anything and doesn't care and the kids are failing. The answer is, from the left is, that you need to pay the incompetent teacher more money. The answer from the conservative is no, no, you need to empower that teacher who loves those kids that allow them to advance.

John Solomon  31:32  
Such an important point. I wanted to pivot to the Barr hearing yesterday in something he said he for the first time I heard the Attorney General Bill Barr say that the Russia scandal was a bogus, he used the word bogus for the first time a lot of us who've reported for years have been using it for a couple years, because the facts warranted it. Not because we're in the game of politics or spin, the facts warrented it. There was no evidence of wrongdoing and they kept investigating anyways, they kept spying. But I want to step back, you've had Eric Greitens, a Republican elected governor in Missouri, driven out of office with a criminal case it later turned out to be frivolous. On the day of the trial, the Prosecutor Kim Gardner, the same woman now, prosecuting them McCloskey, the couple that had their guns out the day the rioters came through their neighborhood. She came to the court and said, you know what, I didn't have this evidence after all, I never really had that. We didn't have the tape, we didn't have the photo, we didn't have the extortion, all the allegations in the case were bogus. You've seen what went on now, all the allegations here in the Russia case and all the abuses that are now laying in plain open, what is going on in law enforcement? Have we reached a stage now where political weaponization of law enforcement is going to become the norm?

Bob McEwen  32:43  
Well, it's a very dangerous term. And people understand that when there is chaos, they then give up their liberty in order to have stability. And so whenever there's an effort and an overthrow of a government, they usually create an economic crisis that then creates political crisis in the street. So when they went... when Jimmy Carter wanted to get rid of the Shah, then he put sanctions on the government there. People were unemployed, all the American and European government businesses began to withdraw, throwing people in the street, then they make the chanting and then you overthrow the government. That's what we're in the midst of seeing at this time. George Soros has financed two people, those who are the prosecutors, are supposed to be the district attorneys for Chicago, for Philadelphia, for Maryland, for St. Louis, for these major places where they will not enforce the law. So that you have this this kind of activity going on, then who counts the ballots you've been invested in secretaries of state so that then you can have fraudulent elections? Now, if the American people can become aware of that and quit electing these these people, then we can save the country. If not, he understands that the chaos that follows he'll be able to bring down the greatest nation on Earth and we are just on the threshold of going either way. 

I however, I am extremely optimistic that we can save this thing and have a greater rebirth of freedom as Abraham Lincoln referred to it, because we see what's going on the Jesse Smollett situation in Chicago, where it was fraud from day one. And now when you see the chaos going on, young blacks being killed at the rate of dozens each week, and the mayor of Chicago using the F word telling the President of the United States using the F word to go away... hopefully the people will rise up and do what is right for the country. And what we see going on in Washington was that they had this thing going on... America was about to economically, militarily and politically become a second rate power, and allow the Chinese to pass in each one of those areas. And they were excited about that and Donald Trump threw a wrench into their entire works, and they couldn't stand it. And immediately after the election, the Hollywood folks began to appeal to the members of the electoral college say, go ahead and cheat. You don't have to vote for him even though you said you were going to. But when the electoral college elected him, then they tried to prevent the success at the inaugural. And then immediately after the inaugural, 17 minutes after he was sworn in the Washington Post owned by Bezos, who owns Amazon, which is all part of those that give hundreds of millions of dollars to Black Lives Matter. Those people then began to have a scenario in which they were convinced there was enough noise that they could impeach the president and so, when they got Muller, and he brought in all of these people that have been proven crooks from when they took down Enron and elsewhere have been sanctioned by the court, you got the dregs of the Justice Department, got them all under his control with plenty of money and went on for two and a half years, and then all of that could not come up with a single thing. No matter how much they try, how much that Scarborough and all these other programs began to support them, and still couldn't get the job done. And when it blew up in their face and they said what the heck, we're just going to impeach him for general purposes, we're not going to accuse him of a crime, because they want to undo our system. So an answer to your question is our future... I tend to think not, but it will be decided at the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November, as to which direction this country is going to go, and I believe we're going to choose properly and this chaos that they have thrown in our face. The American people will say, I don't want that. That's not my future. I want jobs. I want factories that are... where they're cutting ribbons not burning them down, I like them where they're putting up statues, not tearing them down. And that's what they risk.

John Solomon  36:55  
It is exactly what our founding fathers gave us that first Tuesday of November 14. To make big decisions like this. And it's remarkable that 244 years later, it still works. Even with all this chaos, we still have a system that works, checks and balances still seem to have the intended weight that our founding fathers gave us which we're so blessed and lucky for though, you might not hear a lot of that.

Bob McEwen  37:17  
The longest serving government in the history of mankind, one of the youngest countries, the oldest government. Every constitution changed repeatedly since that time.

John Solomon  37:26  
Yeah, no, it's a it was a great experiment that has become a great form of governance, and we just need to embrace it again and get through these difficult times. You have your seasonal meeting coming up in a couple of weeks, I think often the president attends the CMP meeting, because it's so important. Can you tell us a little bit about what's the big ideas, what are the important agenda items that CNP and conservative policy thinkers are going to be talking about heading into the final 80, 70, 60 days of the election?

Bob McEwen  37:57  
Well, one of the things that we're going to discuss is this Black Lives Matter. Now that's a front, whenever somebody has a front group, it's always going to be something good. It's never let's throw children out windows or let's step on puppy dogs. It's always something that everyone would agree to, but who's behind it? And the folks behind it, if you look, if you just go online, you see that these are single women, Maoists, who have a contempt for men in particular, and for the family in general. And they want to just deconstruct the American family, and men, and the riots behind it are for the purpose of undoing our nation. So we're going to talk about the Black Lives Matter and then just educate folks on this whole thing as to who ended slavery in the first place. And as you know, this was the first nation on Earth in our Constitution, we quarantine the importation of slaves. No, no other nation had ever done that. And I, whenever I speak to many of the groups, particularly the folks that claim to be experts on that ask him and when was the slave trade ended in America. And thus far no one has ever been able to tell me because in a hidden place where they would never find it, it's in the Constitution of the United States. And it says in Article One, section nine that they're prohibited from beginning in the year 1808. And so on January 1, and a law that was signed by Thomas Jefferson passed in March of 17 1807. It said that on the first day that they could, they would no more slaves, and that would begin to end the slave trade, it would begin to atrophy and that would be the end of it. But the founder of the modern Democratic Party is Andrew Jackson. There was a there was a Jackson Day dinner, in every democrat count... in every county in America has a democrat dinner called the Jackson Day dinner. And that he then began to try to restore slavery bring in a new slave state that was ended by the republicans under Abraham Lincoln, and every county in America every year has [?]. So those are the fights that now they've gone back rather than having bound up the nation's wounds, which we did for all of these years, and we were healed, and after the Civil War, Robert E. Lee wore his blue northern uniform to send a message to everyone. We are one nation now. And and we honored each other's grave sites and, and elsewhere and we lived in peace. So now these folks have come back, communists, people that hate freedom and free enterprise, they found out that they couldn't... America was so rich, that they couldn't get people to hate the rich people like they did in poor countries. And so now they've tried to drive a wedge with color. And so that's all they ever speak about. They constantly want to drive a wedge between the races. And we have to keep our eyes on what brought us as a nation together, which was a God, who gave us life gave us liberty. That is God that makes us one in each other's sight. So they had to get rid of God first than they had to be able to take innocent life, and now they're wanting to take our liberty. I believe the nation is right on the threshold of this crossroads in which we're going to choose to reinforce, we have a president who is committed to reinforcing our understanding, our freedoms come from God. And that's what made America unique on the planet.

John Solomon  41:13  
Great point and well said, last question, because I know you're busy and you got to get back to work. But I wanted to... every election seems to turn on a singular question when it boils down, and in 64 it was do you want your child to be the daisy child? And 84 it was are you better off than you were four years ago? In 2016? It was do you want to drain the swamp? In 2020 what is the question? You've been through so many elections and have such an astute view of the American [?] What is the question that ultimately voters will ask themselves that will decide this election?

Doug Campbell  41:45  
Well, hopefully, it particularly I'm concerned about women and mothers. And that is if they focus on people, then they'll pick and choose between who's the best looking or whatever. They need to focus on the safety and that is if you are not allowed to speak your mind on the college campus, in fact that you can't even get a job, if you can even be hired unless you mold or molded. And if you don't fit, if you have a home, or a business that that the majority doesn't approve of, then you could lose all of that. They'll bomb you out, they'll attack you, they'll spray paint your car, they'll do all of these things. So the question is whether or not we're going to have tyranny, or we're going to have freedom. And that's the question that we see. Do you want Portland important? And do you want Chicago? Do you want New York? Is that the future of America? Or are we going to... we always were taught to stand when a flag was passing. I remember sitting beside Gerald Ford, at the Hall of Fame parade in 1976. Every time a flag came by, which was with every band that came by, every time he would stand from the flag when by as World War Two veterans would do, and now we see people that they bow down and put themselves in a supine supplicate position when the flag goes by ignoring the fact that the freedom of those that died that they can have it, which one's going to be our future? One, we have a political party and a political leader, that ignores what's happening in in Portland and in St. Louis in these places and said, that's no problem. We don't need to worry about it. That believes that we can continue to have our jobs shipped abroad and he isn't concerned about that, that honors people who spit on our flag and ignore, and have contempt for our flag, or we have a president that appreciates the those who wear the uniform of the country. Respect the flag when it goes by, respect the policemen that keep us safe, and respect those that save and invest and make jobs. That's the question before us. And I think we're gonna opt for the side of liberty, I really believe we will.

John Solomon  44:04  
All right. Well, folks, you've been listening to congressman Bob McEwen, and a good friend. And a big policy thinker. And of course, a great public servant. Congressman, I can't thank you enough for spending so much time and sharing your thoughts. And I think we had some big ideas that'll be floating out through the podcast. I'm very, very excited. So thank you so much, and good luck with your annual meeting or your seasonal meeting coming up, and we'll be keeping an eye on what CNP and you're doing going into the fall election.

Bob McEwen  44:29  
Thank you, John. You left out one more thing, and that is that I'm a big, big fan of John Solomon.

John Solomon  44:35  
Thank you, that goes both ways. Alright, folks, we're gonna come back to the commercial break in a second and wrap things up. You've been listening to John Solomon Reports.

Alright, folks, that wraps it up. What a conversation. You know, what we've been trying to do on John Solomon Reports on Just the News with our big interviews is to bring in people who are directly in the know, or who have big ideas who can inform us leave us with an idea that we can take back to the watercooler, the boardroom, the dinner table. The church pew, well, I think you saw from Bob McEwen, and he's just one of those sort of guys. We're so lucky. I want to thank the former Congressman, for being here. I want to thank you for your patience and listening to us and tuning us in and downloading us. Your John Solomon Reports continues to grow as a platform as a podcast. We're so grateful. We want to hear from you. If you've got an idea for the podcast, drop us a note on Just the News. If you got a guest that you'd like to hear from, drop us a note. We want to know, tweet at us. We'll get to it. But we're trying to serve your interests by making sure you get the news, the information, the perspective that you can use. We're not trying to indoctrinate him or simply trying to give you information so you can make up your own mind and we're so grateful you listen, if you hadn't had a chance, it's pretty clear that the Russia investigation and its unraveling is accelerating. It's a long hot summer in Washington and we're not just talking about the high humidity and hot sun we've had between John Durham, Chuck Grassley, Ron Johnson, Lindsey Graham and Devin Nunez and others. The heat is turning up. Those who are witnesses, those who are targets are of investigation are getting lawyers, they're lawyering up. Documents are being requested, interviews are being conducted. Cooperation deals are being discussed and the final chapter of the sad Russia saga, the false narrative, the abuse of the FBI and the intelligence system. It's coming to its final conclusion, John Durham, Ron Johnson, Chuck Grassley, are gonna have a big say in how that final chapter is written. I hope you got a little bit of sense of where it's headed from our podcast today. In the meantime, before we come back next week, I want you to have a blessed weekend. Be healthy, be safe, enjoy that family. And if you need a news fix, please go visit Just the News.com and tell your friends about it. We're always keeping on top of the news so you can check out what the facts are, instead of all the spin and indoctrination elsewhere in the media. I'm John Solomon. You've been listening to the podcast, John Solomon Reports. Just The News.com Thank you. We'll talk to you soon.