In Phoenix, poll watchers tell Trump lawyers about election night concerns, possible fraud

Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis are in Phoenix on Monday making an evidentiary argument.

Published: November 30, 2020 12:09pm

Updated: November 30, 2020 5:20pm

President Trump's legal team arrived Monday in Phoenix to hold a public hearing with key members of the Arizona legislature, trying to learn more about apparent irregularities in the Nov. 3 presidential election and draw attention to the Dominion Voting Systems machines used in the balloting. 

Rudy Giuliani, the president's personal attorney and leader of most of the campaign's litigation efforts, opened the hearing by saying he and his team are on a "fact-finding" mission and to give a presentation on the Dominion machines, whose security and function have come under scrutiny. 

Giuliani said he's been "having dreams about internet surveillance" after reading the Dominion user guide and that he's determined that using one is akin to "having an open computer."

"Anybody can communicate with them,"  Giuliani said. 

Though the former New York mayor said he had not seen the machines specifically used in Maricopa County, Arizona's largest county, he suspects they were equally susceptible to the ones he has examined. As is the case in Georgia, the campaign is requesting access to the Dominion machines used to count ballots on Nov. 3. 

A number of witnesses were called to testify about their Election Day experience, alleging instances of ballot counting that did not follow specific election protocol. One poll watcher said her efforts to alert her superiors to potential fraud were shut down despite her pleas.

Senior Trump campaign attorney Jenna Ellis was also in attendance.

The Arizona state legislature is not in session. Though the speaker of the House and the president of the Senate could call for committee meetings between legislative sessions, they did not, in this case, authorize the event. 

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