A Texas doctor is “stirring up dust” when it comes to coronavirus
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Dr. Steven Hotze is challenging the medical establishment, and how COVID is being handled, in the great state of Texas.
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John Solomon 0:06
Hello America and welcome to a new edition of John Solomon Reports, a podcast from Just The News where, well, that's what we give you: Just The News. So, today, we're gonna be talking about COVID. We've got Dr. Steven Hotze, one of the great doctors out of the state of Texas. He is stirring up the dust in Texas, challenging the medical establishment, the Republican governor of the state on how they're approaching COVID. And he has some of the data, some of the tactics, some of the frontline medical experience that you might not be getting from the media or the public health officials about what's really going on with COVID. How it's changing, how the death rates are dropping, and hospitalization rates are dropping even as it spreads faster. And he describes this as part of a process and evolution that all respiratory viruses go through. You're not going to want to miss this. This guy's got a lot of frontline experience as a doctor in Texas. You probably seen him on Fox News and other news networks over the last few months. He's been an interesting and influential voice with a contrarian view of how our public health officials, our governors, and others, have been dealing with the pandemic. And so we're going to have him on in a little bit. But first, we're going to go to commercial break. When we come back, I want to talk a little bit about our two recent investigative exposés at Just the News on Dr. Anthony Fauci. Yes, the head of the NA-- NIAID, the infectious agent--disease agency. He's been at the forefront of handling this pandemic, and now beginning to have some criticism and as he defends himself, we're going to talk about what we found in his background, but we're gonna go to this commercial break. We'll be back in about a minute or two, and we'll start talking about Dr. Fauci and then on to another doctor, Dr. Steven Hotze from Texas, Houston, Texas. You're going to want to hear his story about what's really going on in the frontlines of the battle against COVID-19. All right, we'll be right back.
Alright folks, welcome back from the commercial break. Remember, if you like what we do at Just the News at John Solomon Reports, the podcast, you can do something for us by supporting our great advertisers and sponsors. Let them know you love them for loving us. All right. All right, so, before we get to Dr. Steven Hotze, you're going to want to hear his story out of Houston. It's compelling. He's suing the government. He's kicking up dust. He's a tumbleweed coming across the Texas sky. Watch out. He's got, he's gonna make some news. But before we get to that, I want to get to Dr. Anthony Fauci because, as you know, the media has held him up as sort of the sage voice of the coronavirus pandemic and as we know, he's had some conflicts right. He originally said go on a cruise and then go on a cruise. I think his first advice was probably pretty bad. He said don't wear a mask. Now, it's wear a mask. He's given us different rates. In the same month, he wrote a paper saying that the death rate of COVID would probably be about one 10th of 1%. Then he went on the media and said it'd be 10 times that. So, if you've been confused by his behavior and his advice, you're not alone. In fact, Dr. Fauci himself on a recent interview said 'I think I understand why Americans sometimes get confused by what we're saying.' Well, he's the guy in the middle of it. So, he is the, one of the points of confusion. But last week as he started to take some criticism, he was asked about that. And he said, 'listen, I think people should trust me, based on my long record of medicine and the government.'
Well, we went back and looked at his record in medicine, and this is what we found. Multiple times over his career, since he took over the NIAID, the National Institute for Allergies and Infectious Diseases, he has had multiple controversies concerning patient safety and ethics of doctors. The most serious may have been a study they did with AIDS, drugs and foster children in New York City in Illinois, where the children because they didn't have their parents, we're supposed to get a patient advocate. Someone to watch out for their health, while these very toxic and powerful drugs were being tested on them. And that did not happen. In some cases, that was a violation of law.
We found instances going back to 1992, where Fauci's division did a vaccine test and they had two members on the Oversight Board monitoring this test, who had connections or were being paid by the drug company making the vaccine. That's called an ethical conflict of interest. We also have a story and we have him coming on the podcast next week, Dr. Jonathan Fishbein, he was the head of ethics and compliance for Dr. Fauci's AIDS division, and he was a whistleblower that highlighted some of these patient safety and ethics issues. And they fired the guy and he had to be forcibly reinstated after the government concluded he was the likely victim of retaliation. So, Dr. Fauci hasn't had a perfect record. He asked us to go back and look at that record. If you go to the story on JustTheNews.com, it's called 'Fauci files,' you'll learn about that. And today we have another story about him. We went through all the audits of his contracting, and what do you find out there? You find out that on multiple occasions from 2006 to 2012, the Inspector General, the Department of Health and Human Services, which manages or oversees the NIH, which is the parent organization for Dr. Fauci's Infectious and Allergy Disease, I'm sorry, Allergies and Infectious Disease division. They did multiple audits of contracts. And what they found was that he repeatedly, his agency, repeatedly in contracts violated what is known as time and time regulations where they were charging for, in a time period when they weren't allowed to and more importantly, that NIAID violated the Anti-deficiency Act. How do you do that? That's a weird sounding law, but it's very important. It's the law that imposes fiscal discipline on federal agencies in their contracts. And what it basically says is, you can't spend money in a year that you didn't get the appropriation from Congress. So what the IG found, the Inspector General for the HHS department found, was that on multiple contracts over multiple years Fauci's agency spent money they didn't have legally authorized or they didn't spend the money they were supposed to spend. In both cases that is a violation of the Antideficiency Act and it had to be reported to the president and to the Congress.
And so, Fauci encouraged us to look at his record of management, his record of leadership, his record of medicine. No one's going to challenge the fact that he's worked hard to try to cure AIDS and to address pandemics and to address other viruses, but his track record on ethics, at least the agency track record on ethics, whistleblowers, patient safety, there are some problems. His record on contracting, clearly flagged. His record in dealing with a whistleblower, not very good based on the final outcome of that case. And to wrap this up, because we're going to another commercial break. And I really want you to hear from Dr. Steven Hotze, who's this frontline doctor in Houston, where the COVID-19 pandemic is raging, and he's got some really strong advice, comments and analysis about how public health officials have dealt with this.
But before we get to that, let me just tell you the story of one specific patient. There was a young woman with AIDS in Tennessee back in, I think it's 2003. And she was enrolled in one of the AIDS drug trials that were under Fauci's auspices under the division of AIDS under the NIAID, under the NIH, under the HHS, all that alphabet soup. But what this woman started to develop liver problems, serious liver problems. With the drug that she was using, the therapy was known to create liver problems in some people, and they should have stopped the drug administering. They did not. They killed the woman, according to these documents. And when it came to the light of NIH, Fauci's immediate deputy in the AIDS division wrote in a callused email, 'guess you can't do anything about dumb doctors.' That's how much they cared about that poor woman in that terrible medical experiment gone wrong. So, when people say, should we trust Dr. Fauci, here's some new evidence, new data, new information about his track record. He invited us to go there. And I invite you to go to the Just The News website, JustTheNews.com, and check out our stories: 'Fauci files.' Two stories, one about his contracting problems, one about the ethics and other safety issues. They're good reads with my colleague, Daniel Payne and I, we both wrote those stories. We hope you'll look at them and you can get a more complete picture of the complete Dr. Fauci career. There's a lot of good in it. I'm not gonna deny that. But he also doesn't have the perfect record of trust. Certainly, that trust was violated with that woman in Tennessee, that young mother who died and certainly it was violated with those foster children who are already vulnerable because they were separated from their parents, and now they were subjected to an AIDS drug trial. And it didn't go well. You'll see in there, that there's an unexplained 10 deaths among the foster children in the trial. That doesn't mean that they were killed by the drugs, but there's an unexplained question mark in that already problematic trial because they didn't provide the patient advocates the safety protections for those patients. All right, when we come back from the commercial break, Dr. Steven Hotze out of Houston, Texas, on the front lines of the COVID-19 outbreak there. He's got some strong words, some strong analysis, a contrarian view. Some of our public health officials like Dr. Fauci and the governor of Texas, right after this commercial break, we'll be right back. Stay tuned. Dr. Steven Hotze of Houston, Texas.
Alright, folks welcome back from the commercial break and as promised a very special guest with a very special mission in life: Dr. Steven Hotze. He is in Houston. He is a medical doctor, a best selling author. He has his own podcast and most importantly, he runs one of the most attended health and wellness centers in the Houston area. It's the Hotze Health and Wellness Center. And there he works on the holistic approach to medicine. And Dr. Hotze, I can't thank you enough for joining us on John Solomon Reports today.
Steven Hotze 9:58
Well, John, it's a privilege to be with you and I want to thank you for the outstanding work you've done, through your television interviews on Fox News to keep Americans informed of what's really happening today in our political system.
John Solomon 10:13
Well, thank you, sir. I feel very honored to be able to be in a perch to do that. And we've been lucky to have so many honest people come forward and tell us the real truth of what went on in Washington, the first few years of the Trump presidency. So, we're very lucky. Now, you're doing something very important that caught my attention last week, and that is you are suing the state of Texas over the way COVID's been handled in that state. And I want you to talk about that because I find it fascinating. As a medical doctor, you've taken your your best patient case, and you've gone to the courts to try to make the case better for patients. Tell us what you're doing.
Steven Hotze 10:46
Well, our governor issued executive-- he's a Republican, which is surprising because Republicans are supposed to be for constitutional values that support that, that our governor, Greg Abbott, has issued a series of executive orders over the last three months which violated the Constitution, as applied. And what he did was shut down businesses and he chose businesses. Some were essential, some were not essential. For instance, restaurants were not essential, he shut them down, but liquor stores were kept open.
John Solomon 11:23
Isn't that amazing.
Steven Hotze 11:26
Yeah, one of the, one of the Public Health Officers said, so many people are addicted to alcohol. We're afraid if we stopped the alcohol purchases in Texas that the hospitals are being filled with people withdrawing from alcohol, so they decided to keep the stores open. But anyway, what they've done is in shutting down a business, you may not be familiar with this term. This is a regulatory inverse condemnation. If you owned a business, John, and the governor came and said, you know, your business isn't essential. You've got employees, you've got staff, you've got customers all who think you're essential. It's essential to you and your family and to your staff and to your customers, and he shuts it down without any legal due process. And it also violates equal protection, because one business is selected over another. You know, we can't have many stores restaurants are shut, but they leave Walmart open and a thousand show up. You can't attend church, there was a time in Texas. Now, that's been opened up. But there was a time when the churches were shut down. Now they're regulated and how they can conduct their services. And you're familiar with that across
John Solomon 12:32
Of course.
Steven Hotze 12:33
In California, they won't let them sing in church. Hello? I mean, we can't make this unless--
John Solomon 12:39
But you can talk in a Walmart.
Steven Hotze 12:41
Yeah, but you can walk around in Walmart. And the provisions are arbitrary and they're capricious. That means there's no rhyme or reason there. They the haven't if there's a compelling interest in the government says, 'well, we have a compelling purport to have a compelling interest in this COVID situation.' They're required by law and by court precedents to pick the least restrictive and most narrowly tailored means to advance their alleged compelling interest and they haven't done that. So, I filed-- filed suit, both against the governor and state court and in federal district court. I filed suits against our County Judge Lina Hidalgo who became an American citizen from Columbia. She's an avowed socialist, about, which means she's a Marxist and a communist, let's just call a spade a spade.
John Solomon 13:36
Right.
Steven Hotze 13:38
She became a citizen in 2013. She was in graduate school, never held a job. They put her name on the ballot for County Judge, which in Texas, the County Judge runs the commissioner courts. The commissioner courts are made up of five people, four county commissioners and the county judge. You don't have to be an attorney to be a county judge. It's an executive position.
John Solomon 13:57
That's amazing. I didn't know that.
Steven Hotze 13:59
Yeah. In Texas, that's a law on how it is in other states. That's why it's run in Texas and they handle the streets and roads and all that. Well, Harris County, as you can imagine, it's 6 million people, spends literally billions of dollars every year on roads and tollways and all that sort of thing.
John Solomon 14:14
Sure.
Steven Hotze 14:14
But she-- she ended up upsetting the County Judge. So now the Democrats have a five, three to two majority. And just to tell you how crazy this is, they, a month ago issued a budget to allocate $12 million to register all voters in the county by mail.
John Solomon 14:39
Wow.
Steven Hotze 14:40
Which is totally illegal, but they're gonna say they're gonna do it by mail. $3 million for the mailing; $9 million for education to educate the voters. And I predict that they will only send these into the Democratic precincts and I know this is a means for them to steal elections. Folks, that's how-- that's what happens with when these mail in ballots go out. Now, in Texas, if you're 65 and older, you can request one. If you were traveling out of state you could, but it's not for the general population. And it's never been that way. In fact, this is banned in Texas, that even though they get a court order against them, it doesn't stop the Democrat county clerk from adding amount. What are they going to do? There's no penalty. I mean, theoretically, they could hold him in contempt of court and throw him into jail, but he'll be all protected by his Democratic judges, that socialist judges that took over Harris County. So that's the politics of it. Anyway, she's issued a whole series of orders, like the governor did. The governor's back down on some of his orders here, but he still has mask mandates. And she came out and said, this is Lina Hidalgo County Judge in Harris County issued an order at the first of the month, that if any business allowed anyone to come in without a mask, they would be fined $2,000.
John Solomon 15:56
Right. I remember this.
Steven Hotze 15:58
And so, now the businesses are the ones that have to enforce the mandate because nobody was wearing them, wouldn't wear masks. But now, the business are concerned, though all the businesses, for the most part, all the businesses are trying to enforce this so they don't get in trouble, so they don't get popped. So it's forcing people to have to wear a mask. And that's a whole nother discussion about whether masks effective or ineffective. Since the get-go on this whole COVID thing, I've said this is the greatest fraud ever perpetrated upon the American public. And the American public bought the bait, hook, line and sinker. It was all if I happen to believe having done the study of it, this whole thing has been orchestrated for one night, one primary purpose and that is to destroy the economy and undermine Trump's ability to be reelected. That's my opinion on it. And I know you have expressed similar opinions. So let's just talk real briefly about COVID. It is a respiratory flu-like virus.
John Solomon 17:05
Right.
Steven Hotze 17:05
Whether or not it was created by Bill Gates in China and all that. I mean, you know, people you know, I've read plenty on that, you have, too. And there may be some truth to all this. But the long and the short, it's here. It's a real virus. I don't say.
John Solomon 17:21
People die from it. Right? We're not disputing that at all.
Steven Hotze 17:23
No, but it's here, but it is very mild and it's a trivial cause of death in Texas, compared to all the other causes of death. Last year in Texas, we had 10,000 people died of flu and flu-related pneumonia. So far in Texas, this year, over the last six months, we've had a little over 3000 people die allegedly attributed to COVID and, so all these people are dying in nursing homes. In Texas last year, 180,000 people died for all from all sorts of reasons. 40,000 people died in nursing homes in Texas. One, that's about one-fifth of the people that died in nursing homes. So, there, so, people are dying in nursing homes, Well, people go to nursing homes, they don't go there to be rehabilitated. Normally a person is placed in a nursing home by a family because they need around-the-clock care. So, debilitated and infirm with preexisting conditions. That's the last stop. That's just what it is. I call it hospice-like. They go there to be cared for and in many of the nursing homes, you know, for some of them are just very unfortunate how badly they're run and how they're handled, especially ones that are government-run or government-funded or it's-- I have a son that's a plaintiff attorney and he did some lawsuits in nursing homes. And he said that you just would not believe what goes on in these nursing homes, how poorly they're run. So it's not at all surprising that we have in some of the states is up to this I read last I read (unintelligible) 75% of the people that had died were in nursing homes.
John Solomon 19:00
Yeah.
Steven Hotze 19:00
Well, is this surprising? They die in nursing homes every year.
John Solomon 19:04
It's the reason why we're-- that's right. So, that's why we worry about flu in nursing homes, too.
Steven Hotze 19:05
That's right. That's right. They have the flu, a urinary tract infection, sepsis, bed sores, the whole-- plus, their underlying condition. So it's not surprising. And that doesn't mean, I'm not trying to be cavalier about it, but we all have a life expectancy. I have a life expectancy. I'm born, I live my life. I'm still active. I'm at 70. I've been practicing medicine 45 years. And I-- and I know at some point, someone is going to write an obituary about me and somebody is going to give a eulogy about me. That's going to happen. In the meantime, I'm going to do everything I can to stay healthy. So, when this COVID came out, I immediately knew this was wrong in my gut. I knew it was wrong because my mother had told me son never follow the herd, you'll stampede over a cliff or be stampeded to death. Move out and lead the herd. So, when I saw the the massive spirit that had been being created and was attempting to be created by government health bureaucrats who don't practice medicine, by the mainstream media and by demagogue politicians to take control and power from the people and crap on their constitutional liberties, God-given and inalienable constitutional liberties.
John Solomon 20:26
Right.
Steven Hotze 20:27
I knew there was a problem and I began to research South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, none of whom completely shut down at all. They didn't have the lockdowns and I began to see how these, how the product could be treated. I was on Fox News, March 15, in the afternoon, and I said, 'Look, you listen to all these health bureaucrats telling you to social distance and don't shake hands and don't get near people and on and on and on, locked down. But nobody's told you what you can do to stimulate and bolster your immune system. Obviously. But we know this is that people that tend to contract diseases tend to be people that are unhealthy and they have compromised immune systems. Well, why don't we build up our immune system. Why isn't somebody's telling you what you can do and being, practicing a holistic or natural approach to health. I've been a strong advocate for vitamin supplementation for 30 years. And the most important thing for a person to do to bolster their immune system is take high dose vitamin A, a good B complex, high doses of vitamin C, I recommend 1000 milligrams for 25 pounds body weight, weigh 200 pounds, take 8000 units, 8000 milligrams a day, and take vitamin d3.
John Solomon 20:28
Right.
Steven Hotze 20:35
And I recommend now 10,000. We give 10,000 international units. Almost everybody's low in vitamin D. That stimulates the immune system. There have been articles about vitamin D, helping people overcome the COVID virus and other respiratory viruses and take zinc and a good probiotic. So, I created an immune back, and I said that on national TV, and there was some doctor from Connecticut that ran the whole hospital system and she, well, she came 'Oh, we don't know if they work or not.' Well, I'm just gonna tell you, I'm 70 years old. When I've practiced emergency medicine for five years and in my practice, I've seen people with bacterial and viral meningitis, pneumonia, gastrointestinal problems caused by bacterial and infectious diseases, strep infections, staph infections all over the body. You name it, I've seen it. I was exposed. I never wore a mask one. I never quarantined myself. I went home with a family with eight kids and nobody ever got it. What is it about this virus that makes us think it's different than anything else. They're trying to scare the public because they want to see how far they can push the public to see how far they're, how much liberty they're willing to give up. This is just a-- this is just a first phase what I believe ultimately they're going to try to do to the country. So, in Texas, here's a quick statistic. A little over three, I think that 3300 attributed to COVID deaths out of a population of 30 million. That means so that many of that means 99.991% of all people in Texas have not died.
John Solomon 23:22
Right.
Steven Hotze 23:23
And of those.
John Solomon 23:24
That put's it in perspective.
Steven Hotze 23:26
Pardon me?
John Solomon 23:26
That puts it in perspective.
Steven Hotze 23:29
Right. And then on top of that, of people that have been allegedly have the COVID virus at you cannot believe the tests are, I'm telling you. I know. I know three people that went and got in line, signed up to get in line and they couldn't wait. They left and they got a letter back that
John Solomon 23:46
That they were positive, right?
Steven Hotze 23:48
Right, then I have another friend who had a son who works in, who's doing an internship in college for some company to come to test everybody, was sent off to some lab in Tyler, Texas. He gets his report back, page one says that he has, this gentleman has, COVID positive. He flips over to the lab test and the lab test says 'test inconclusive. Presume positive.'
John Solomon 24:13
Wow.
Steven Hotze 24:14
And he was counted as having COVID.
John Solomon 24:16
(unintelligible) medically responsible.
Steven Hotze 24:18
In Florida. You know what happened in Florida?
John Solomon 24:21
The 10x hospital, right? The hospital that counted things ten times.
Steven Hotze 24:24
It's just, it's out of control. Listen to this: in the Republican states, compared to the Democratic states, the Democrats have eight times the death rate. That's the number of people that have died over the entire population. They have eight times the death rate as Republican states. No, I don't think this virus has selectively chosen different states. I've got to believe they're cooking the numbers. Why do they want to do that? Now, they're not talking about death anymore. It's incidents.
John Solomon 24:53
Right.
Steven Hotze 24:54
I'm a believer in herd immunity. Let the virus run its course. I've had several patients, guests here at the Hotze Health and Wellness Center that either had symptoms or had symptoms and got a test. Not everybody was tested. I don't want to have everybody tested because of the surveillance and contact tracing and what I immediately was able to do is get them started on hydroxychloroquine, zithromax and made sure they had zinc. And to the person within 24 hours, they were dramatically improved, and their fevers completely subsided. And I haven't I have an 83-year-old former state senator and his wife, he called me up Sunday said he's been sick for two days, and you know, 'I've got a fever. Now, what do you think?' I said, 'probably got COVID.' Let me call this in. He calls me back Monday. She's got no fever anymore. She feels great and I feel great. And he texted me again on Tuesday. So, there's some very safe, effective treatments. Of course, as you know, the President, I think, I know he's taking hydroxychloroquine. I think he's taking it prophylactically, just from the comments.
John Solomon
Right.
Steven Hotze
But, but, but now the FDA and state medical boards have cracked down on, and pharmacy boards, crack down on anybody that uses hydroxychloroquine. Now, that's just-- that's something-- I mean, there's something terribly wrong about this situation. And so what they have done, it appears what they're doing, is they have politicized this. Now, I've got suits against the governor in state court and federal court. Last week, the, on the eighth of March, the governor of the Mayor of Houston, Sylvester Turner, who is a lifelong Democrat. He was in the legislature for 35 years, canceled the Republican State Convention in Houston, which was a week out. Threw everything into disruption. The party thought they were, so I filed a lawsuit as a delegate. I'm going to go to the national convention, I filed a lawsuit in federal district court for a temporary restraining order against the mayor. We lost on Wednesday, because the the party said, well, we're going to go ahead and have a virtual convention. Nobody could get online on Thursday, we went back to court and got the party to join us into the suit. The governor-- the judge, federal judge Lynn Hughes granted a temporary restraining order and he called it a preliminary injunction because we'd already discussed the issues and said that the mayor had to open up this weekend, this past weekend, and the following weekend to let us have an in-person convention.
John Solomon
So, you won.
Steven Hotze
Well, I yeah, we won in federal district court. It was, they appealled it immediately, the Fifth Circuit which stayed the decision. Doesn't mean they overruled it, they stayed till they got the written report from the, from judges, which is a beautiful, beautiful decision and that he made in writing and I'll send you a copy of that to see where he said. It was all unconstitutional grounds, violation of first amendment rights, freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. He said, in court, that Mayor Turner had violated the first amendment rights of Republicans not letting them meet. And we just had, a month before, a 60,000-person march for that convicted felon George Floyd and had a huge funeral. Nobody had any social distancing. Half the people didn't have a mask. Nobody said anything. But when the Republicans wanted to meet, they wanted to throw the Republicans into disarray.
John Solomon
Under the law. That's the question here, right? Which is it's an unequal protection, right.
Steven Hotze
That's right.
John Solomon
Two people treated in two very different ways with the same right.
Steven Hotze
Exactly. Exactly. So, the judge saw that. Now, we also have a federal lawsuit in the same court with judge Lynn Hughes against the governor for the executive orders. Right, which shut down businesses, churches and chose between businesses, which is unequal protection. He did it all without due process. Literally, we have-- there are literally hundreds of thousands of businesses in Texas that will never reopen. There have been 2 million jobs lost in the state
John Solomon
Economic consequences.
Steven Hotze
I don't know how you come back. I don't know how you come back from it. But he also came out with surveillance and contact tracing program without, with only two days of bids. He gave it to a group called MTX out of New York, had never-- had only had $14 million in gross revenue last year, not in profits, gross revenue. Gave them a $295 million contract to do contact tracing and surveillance and they never been in the business before. It's really odd. When things happen, when things like this happen, it makes you go, 'Hmm, I wonder what's going on.' My dad used to say, if something seems inexplicable, follow the money trail. So, somebody made some money there somewhere who had influence with the governor to be able to get that, get that contract with only two days worth of bidding. So, that's where we are. We filed suit against that. And that will be heard in federal district court, probably next week. With our current lawsuit with the county judge on our masking order and our other executive orders. We lost in state District Court in Harris County, which is all controlled by a quote about socialist Democrats that won the election and they control the courts. We knew we're gonna lose there. So, we filed an emergency petition for a writ of mandamus with the Texas Supreme Court, asking them to mandate that our order be cancelled. So, we're gonna see what happens that was filed yesterday.
John Solomon
Yesterday, right? Yeah.
Steven Hotze
Right. And they will they will have a census that emergency petition. They will hear it today or tomorrow on Zoom, they're not meeting in person, and they will have to make a decision. In the meantime, we also have the federal lawsuit against governor Abbott, in hoping. What happens in state courts, a lot of people, even the Supreme Court, six of the members were appointed by the governor and other reelected. Everybody has to go through an election. But the way the buddy system works, if you were on the Supreme Court, and I was the governor and I pointed you, I'd say, 'John, now, you know, when you get ready now to run, you're going to need to resign a couple of months before so I can appoint somebody like I did you.' That's what we're doing in Texas. And we're really leading the way. If we can get a-- if we can get another successful ruling from either Federal Judge Lynn Hughes or the state Supreme Court. Well, this will embolden and encourage other patriotic Americans across the country to stand up for their rights in their courts of law. It will set precedence.
John Solomon
Wow. Let me walk through some basic medical stuff. So, this is a respiratory flu. Normally respiratory flus started off extremely more dangerous at the beginning and then they begin to morph. Correct me if I'm wrong, it says begin to morph become more contagious and less virulent in terms of symptoms. Is that-- is that generally the truth? The theory of viberology of respiratory,
Steven Hotze
That is the case and this particular virus has mutated. We know that from studies across the world, even in the United States, it's begun to mutate. Just like the flu virus mutates. When you take a flu shot, that's a flu shot from the virus last year. You've got a mutated flu.
John Solomon
That's right.
Steven Hotze
So, 50% of the people with the flu had a flu shot, right? Why did they get it? Because it mutated, and the coronavirus is mutating. A vaccine is not going to be the end. It's gonna be much like a flu vaccine. You know, it will work 30 to 60% of the time and it won't work. You know the rest of the time. 40 to 70 percent it won't work. And so, that's why I believe in what we've always done historically. Look, I grew up, we got measles, mumps, the whole nine yards. In fact, they used to have measles parties, you know, we'd have several moms, mom didn't want them, you know, and run through them. Everybody'd get them, make sure everybody gets measles one time. We didn't want to drag this thing on. And it would run through the family, and everybody's done and now you're immune. That's called herd immunity and that's what I believe that we need to do. This idea of locking down and opening up and locking down and opening up. We will absolutely destroy the economy. It will never come back when you do that. You've got to let it run its course. Those people that have preexisting conditions, elderly and infirm, they should protect themselves. If they want to go out and don't care, I know people in their 70s. I'm 70, for crying out loud. I don't wear a mask, I don't. I go out, I meet people all the time. I'm healthy. I'm well. I've got my hormones balanced. I've got, you know, I take all my vitamins and minerals. I eat healthy, by the way. Let me mention something to your listening audience of which 70% are overweight. The reason that we're overweight is that we eat high-starch diet. Starch is a sugar, molecules hooked together, sugar raises insulin level, insulin convert sugar to fat. We get overweight; we get high blood pressure; we get heart disease; kidney problems; degenerative arthritis. We get strokes; we get Alzheimers all because we're eating a high simple carb sugar diet and that's what we need-- and that also depresses the immune system. So, I recommend a good whole food diet. We recommend good healthy oils and fats, butter. We recommend avocados, eggs, you know, eat nuts, fish oil, olive oil, cod liver oil. Eat healthy vegetables, pure butter on it, a little bit of meat. And intermittently fast so you-- I'll eat one time a day. I eat it at, and I've done this for years, I eat meat, I have bulletproof coffee in the morning and that coffee with coconut oil in it, a tablespoon, with some stevia. I have two cups of that big cups. I'm not hungry all day long. And then I have a small portion for dinner. And I'm satisfied. But I've learned to eat that way. I don't live to eat. I eat to live.
John Solomon
There's a big difference.
Steven Hotze
Yes, sir.
John Solomon
So, we got a few minutes left, I want to walk through a couple things because I want to get back to this idea of political weaponization of medicine. So if doctors generally know that every respiratory virus starts terrible, so in New York It was pretty awful, we get that, and then it slows down and becomes more contagious and less deadly as it spreads through the course of the year. Then why are people panicking now, when we see a declining death rate, a declining hospitalization rate? There are more people in the hospital in Texas recently than there were a few months ago, but the severity of the symptoms and the outcomes are very different. Isn't that true?
Steven Hotze
Well, that's true. As a matter of fact, only in ICU, only 15% of the people at the last report I saw, even had positive COVID. And remember their are people in the hospital, like they check everybody that goes to the hospital for the Coronavirus. They check you up in your nostrils. Guess what the most common cause of the cold is? Its coronavirus. It's one of the top coronavirus. And so if you're gonna stick that up there, how specific are these tests? It's like everybody in the Solomon family has got the same genes and everybody may look alike and be similar. And so they're like, 'that's a Solomon, or when you test, well there's Coronavirus,' but is that a Coronavirus from COVID-19? Or is that just the coronavirus that we all have sitting in our sinuses. We all have these viruses and bacteria. Every one of us are exposed to trillions of viruses and bacteria every day. They fill our body, our mouths are covered with bacteria, our colons are. So and where our immune system does, God's given us the immune system, to simply help us maintain and hold all these viruses and bacteria. So, yeah, hold them in check. And that's what happens. So, people come in with all kinds of problems. They go to the hospital with a heart attack, they check them for COVID. And they said, well, they got COVID.
John Solomon
Right.
Steven Hotze
And then they-- and then they're in the emergency room for heart attack, but it's $13,000 for every COVID case,
John Solomon
That's right. Yeah, no, it's become a cash game. So I want to walk you through a couple more things. So COVID in the cold form has been around for forever. But in the early 2000s, COVID in a bat, you know, sylvette human transmission. SARS I, right, yep. And that and then SARS and MERS. We got then, that kind of two, three range. It would seem if scientists were really worried about it, the public health pressures were really worried about it back then. Why wouldn't they have created a base vaccine that when it came around, and we did have one that spread more widely than those two, which by the way, were contained pretty easily. We'd have a base to work off of COVID you know, vaccines. If it was so dangerous back then, why didn't our public health officials start to work on a vaccine so the next time it jumped, we'd have a leg up on it. Did we miss a good public health opportunity there?
Steven Hotze
Well, probably the scientists realized that a vaccine is oftentimes a fool's errand because they realize this thing is gonna mutate.
John Solomon
Right.
Steven Hotze
And they know that the vaccines, and now some vaccines when there's a mutation can be very helpful. Think about polio vaccine, right? But these respiratory viruses mutate and it's kind of like 'why are we gonna spend money on this? Why are we going to do it and they just decided it didn't really justify the expense to do that. And would we really have a leg up? Well, it's different than the-- it's mutated the SARS II is different than SARS I, which we had back in the first and there was a there was a Middle East Respiratory problem they had. This is, we've had every year or every two years seemed like every election year we have this public health problem, you know, and everybody's worried. Well, look, we had the swine flu back when when Barack Obama was there and he didn't declare emergency for six months and he never could. And every year 50,000 people die in America from the flu. We don't work. We don't shut down schools and churches and businesses. Nobody wears masks and everybody, look if you got sick, if we didn't know about the coronavirus and you got sick and we're home for a weak, you know, John had the flu. Nobody would quarantine themselves. Nobody would lock down and wear a mask if John had the flu, hope I don't get it.
John Solomon
Right. The, given what you've seen, and I want to get to politics as the last question, but before that, do we have a public health system, a public health institution that is a sick patient itself, meaning that it creates hysteria without solutions, it creates solutions without the proper hysteria. Have we been let down by the NIH, the CDC, the State Health Departments? Most people I talked about in the national security world said what they saw play out this year makes them scared that a terrorist with a really bad virus might come in because we don't have any real smart people running the public health system, prepared people that are going to deal with this. Are we-- do we have a sick patient in the public health sector right now.
Steven Hotze
Well, we do and the reason is, in my opinion, many people that can't really make it in the free enterprise economy is doctors or anything else oftentimes gravitate towards government benefits they have. And this goes, the same thing, for the health bureaucrats. Fauci graduated from Cornell in '66; Medical School in 68. He goes to work for the NIH, for 52 years he's been a government employee. And you go look at his background, he's tied into Gates. He's on Gates' worldwide vaccination leadership. He's been on that for 10 years. He's got, he, you know, Fauci has not been in the real world. I don't know if he's ever really treated a patient other than maybe when he was in his internship. Hasn't really treated anybody. So, he has a different perspective on things. And it's unfortunate that he got the year of President Trump, whom as you know, is a admitted germaphobe. You know that, he said that on national TV. He used to not shake hands. Now he does, but so, I'm sure they came in there and told him the worst case scenario, 2.2 million people gonna die. This is the worst thing ever since the bubonic plague. And his concern was that this was really going to happen. And I don't know how he ever gets rid of Fauci. You know, I don't know. I don't know how that happens. And I'm hoping he's gonna make, he knows intuitively he knows that what has happened has not been right. And he wants to get the economy going. He wants people back at work. He knows that needs to be done. And I hope he will have the fortitude to pull this off. It's so important. He's left it up in the governors that we have to do what I've been doing, is trying to force the governors either through political or legal process to open up their states. Let the virus run its course. But yes, the answer to your question, of course: anytime you have, look, what's the old adage that Reagan said? Always beware when you have somebody knocking on the door, and they say, I'm the government, I'm here to help.
John Solomon 42:30
That's right. Yeah, he did utter that famous line.
Steven Hotze 42:33
That's what we have, now. Remember, they said, 'no masks. Oh, don't wear a mask you don't--' I've got a commercial about, I have on TV about no masks, but Fauci: 'you don't need to wear a maks.' Now, all of a sudden masks are important. And I think the reason is, John, is that because the death rate is falling so dramatically, they've got to keep people scared. Putting on masks really does cause people to feel like anxious, they're anxious about it. We wouldn't be wearing masks, if it wasn't really a serious problem.
John Solomon
It's personal isolation dude, yeah.
Steven Hotze
Right. Exactly. And by the way, masks, I'll leave you with this: masks, the viral particle is nanoparticle.
John Solomon
That's right, it's going to go right through that cloth. Right?
Steven Hotze
It goes right through the mask, it goes around the mask, it floats in the air and gets to the air conditioning system. It's everywhere. It's ubiquitous. And the mask will not prevent that. Besides, they cause hypoxemia. And I've said, I've seen these backcheck, 'Oh, it doesn't cause hypoxemia.' They've done studies and I've read the studies of surgeons that are in surgery, and they do hypometers on it. And after two hours in surgery, they have a significant drop in their blood oxygen levels. And how could they say that's not a fact, when we've got papers on it that have proven it?
John Solomon
Yeah, no, that's true. There are definitely challenges to that. All right. This is the last question because I think actually it sums up a lot of what we've been talking about. It seems to me that in this pandemic, you see more politics and medicine being practiced by public health officials. Describe, you've done a good job describing all the points, but how did we get to this point? How did medicine become politicized? Well, I guess, how did the FBI become politicized in the Russia case? But give us your assessment of how this evolution from medicine and neutrality to political gamemanship appears to everyone in the way you view it?
Steven Hotze
Well, of course, it starts with the health bureaucrats issuing these ridiculous orders and predictions. And then the conditional medical doctors fall into line because most physicians are very conventional. They were trained in medical school and oftentimes are unwilling to think out of the box or challenge the current orthodoxy, because they feel they'll be thought of badly by their peers, and it's a very conservative profession. And I think that's the reason I think most doctors, even though in closed doors, they say 'this craziest thing ever I've ever seen.'
John Solomon
Right.
Steven Hotze
They're not willing to take a public stand on that, because the medical boards will chastise them if they come out and call this the fraud that it is. And they'll be looked down upon some of their colleagues and they'll get bad press. And so most people aren't willing to do that. I think it's just the issue, human nature. I mean, think of yourself, think all the study and all the exposes that you have done through your investigative reporting. That's available to every reporter in the country to go do that kind of study. But my old Professor of Medicine used to say when he would ask us why, why, why, and we could, he finally he showed us that we were ignorant, we didn't know and he said, 'the problem with you and with most doctors, is, you know why they don't think?' And we said, 'Why, sir?' And he said, 'because basically, they're lazy and thinking takes a lot of hard work. And that's what-- so, you guys need to work and you need to think and it takes time to do that.' And most people aren't willing to take-- most doctors and conventional doctors, they're having to see a pot full of patients all day long. They don't have time to do all these studies, or get involved and so they just follow the crowd. That's the way. That's what, that's why you see all these people with masks. Nobody's going to challenge it. They know intuitively it's wrong, but they don't know what to do about it. That's why I've written extensively and I've been on, this is my 123rd radio or podcast or TV program. I've been on since March 15.
John Solomon
You're spreading the word from a real practitioner on the front lines. I mean, that's one of the problems, too. The doctors on the front lines, the people that see this, they often get silence in the public policy debate. Bureaucrats overrule doctors, whether it's hydroxychloroquine, all these things. I think that's one of that when we armchair quarterback what happened the last eight months. We're going to learn a lot about re-empowering the doctors on the frontlines and stop letting some researcher who hasn't seen a patient in 30 years making the calls for it.
Steven Hotze
That's exactly right.
John Solomon
Well, sir, Dr. Hotze, I can't thank you enough. This has been very educational. We're very excited. I know my listeners at John Solomon Reports are going to take great pleasure in listening to this and learning and contemplating the very big thoughts that you've left us with. If people want to learn about your center, how do they get in touch with you? How do they line up and get to the center?
Steven Hotze
Well, you can go online at Hotze, H-O-T as in Thumb-Z as in Zebra,-E, HotzeHWC, Health Wellness Center, HotzeHWC.com. And our vitamin companies Hotze, H-O-T-Z-E, vitamins. There we make a recommendation of what you need to do to build your immunity and I have a Dr. Hotze immune pack trying to help people, give them a solution on how they can-- what they can do proactively to be healthy. That's what we need to do. Every one of us needs to take charge of our health. And if you want to be healthy folks, nobody can do it but you. You can't depend upon your doctor, the insurance company, the government or your spouse. It's up to you.
John Solomon
It's funny, when I had a pediatrician when I was growing up, he was an old school pediatrician. I loved him and I couldn't, I was sad the day I had a move to my primary care physician because I love this man. He used to always tell me, 'son, your best doctor is the patient. If you take care of yourself, you won't need to see me very often.' And those are, those are wise words to live by.
Steven Hotze
Exactly. He was a very wise doctor.
John Solomon
That he was. I have much great, great, I feel blessed to have had him as my doctor. Well, Dr. Hotze, we've been so lucky to have you here. I thank you. Let's stay in touch. I think this pandemic is, if the key was the normal course of a respiratory flute, does this sort of peter out around September timeframe?
Steven Hotze
Well, it does, and of course it may reoccur as the flu season starts again. We'll just have to see. If they keep all these lockdowns, people aren't, you can't build herd immunity if you're not interacting. You got to interact. So, the vast majority of people, listen, the death rate in Texas is one in 10,000. And that's not for everybody that's wanting 10,000 for the whole population, right? If you're 50 and under, it's one and a half a million or one in a million. I mean, unless you have a pre-exis-- in kids under 18 hardly have any symptoms at all. I've had eight grandkids out of 24 grandkids have it. It lasted overnight. That was it.
John Solomon
Wow. Fascinating. We're going to learn a lot and hopefully our public policy gets wiser because this thing has been an unusual and, I would argue, unnecessary rollercoaster. We should have been better-prepared and the people that we gave billions of dollars to at the NIH and other places, the CDC, they had no idea what they were doing. I mean, I think it's pretty clear. We've done stories on Just The News where the flip flops are more than I flipped my pancakes when I'm making my breakfast in the morning. And at some point, we need to call it out and get it fixed so that we're better prepared for the next health crisis. So, sir, you've helped us get there. I thank you, and let's have you back on real soon.
Steven Hotze
Thank you so much, John.
John Solomon
All right, folks, we're gonna come back for a commercial-- after a quick commercial break and wrap things up for the day. We'll be right back.
John Solomon
Alright, folks, that wraps up another edition of John Solomon Reports. Thank you for sticking through this. This was such an important podcast. I think we're all worried about COVID. We're all been mortally confused by it because of all of the different advices that our public health officials gave us. And I think today, Dr. Steven Hotze gave us a very clear, unique way of how a frontline medical practitioner, on the frontlines in Texas where COVID's big right now, how they're viewing this. This is the normal course of a respiratory virus; that we're probably heading towards herd immunity before we get those vaccines. Again, it's one point of view, but it's an informed point of view by a person who's been a doctor for many, many years on the front lines and currently on the front lines. You see Dr. Hotze on Fox News, other TV networks. We were so glad he gave us that much time. Took some time away from his patients to come help explain to all of us, the larger patients in America, the larger population, what it's about. If you get a chance, check out his website. He's a very prolific writer. He's on television. He's trying to inform the debate as best he can with the frontline knowledge we have. I think one thing he said today is very important: that there are two levels of doctors. Those on the frontlines treating patients and those that are in the institutional bureaucracy of big government medicine. And his point, I think, well taken, is that those on the frontlines need to be listened to more. Hydroxychloroquine, we know from frontline doctors, we know from the studies that have been written in the last few weeks that the news media are hiding or not reporting on fully, that hydroxychloroquine did work just like the frontline doctors did. Unlike the FDA, CDC, NIH doctors who tried to throw it under the bus once Donald Trump got behind it. These are important perspectives, to have a doctor like Dr. Hotze talking to us. And that's why we do John Solomon Reports, the podcast. That's why we have Just The News. We feel very lucky. We'll be back with you next week. I don't know where we're gonna go next. But I think we might be able to get that NIH whistleblower who worked for Dr. Fauci, the one I mentioned earlier in the podcast, he might just come on the show and tell us all what really happened under Dr. Fauci's reign at the National Institutes of Health. So, stay tuned. That's a little tease. Hopefully, it'll come true. Have a great weekend. Be safe, enjoy your family, where are those masks to make sure that people around you feel a little more comfortable. We're all in this together. And we'll be back at you next week with some new news. Some new exclusives. Don't leave home without checking out Just The News. We really appreciate what you do. You've been listening to John Solomon Reports the podcast from Just the News. We'll be back to you next Tuesday.